Originally Posted by Winx.ZN

And then we all got burnt out with it, noticed our alliance was getting stressed out. Had people moaning about other guilds because they couldnt hold a specific amount of faction. Things were looking worse than a Charr in a dress blowing kisses at you.
Then, we were reborn.
Those that still wished town control left the alliance (and their faction with them, no harm no foul). From an alliance of 9, we were an alliance of 2. Then we gathered guilds with our new motto in mind.
Full Vent > Lots of Faction.
With the insane increased in Faction reward from AB, amber will be worth less than Monstrous eyes in a short while. For those that made you money selling amber, tough luck, for people like me that thought buying something I could get for free, sweet deal. We still arent many guilds in our little alliance but we are much happier.
Say No to Sweatshop Faction Farm! Say Yes to playing the game!
On a side note : the 10% decrease per day was intended to give other alliances a chance to own the town... someday. Not "we want you to grind" by the mean ANet people. The fact that some towns cost over 8,000,000 faction to own is ludicrous to me. Thats 80 people donating 10k faction per day, or 160 donating 5k faction per day, to just fight the degen. If people didnt faction farm like insane faction farmers they are, and played the game, the cost to own most towns would plummet. I believe it was in hopes that people thought "faction farming to this extent is not worth it!" and keep the prices of towns at a reasonable level. Making it more accesible to everyone. 10 guilds per alliance, 100k per guild is 1,000,000 faction. Much easier to maintain. The faction system wasnt born broken, farmers broke it. The 20% discount, fireworks, and elite mission entrance doesnt sound like bad perks if you only need 1-2 million to control it. (Yes, that sounds like very little faction considering the bloated numbers of today, but it sounds a reasonable amount people can maintain by just playing the game, doing quests, doing AB battles when they WANT to, and donating AT WILL).
-i think im done-

Originally Posted by Karlos

But in terms of "individual rewards" it has little to offer, but then again (as I mentioned above), a win in HoH has very little to offer in that regard.

Originally Posted by Beat_Go_Stick

Um, isn't there a simple solution?

STOP FARMING!

You didn't farm because some slavemaster with a whip had you chained to a desk with your gonads in a vice. You farmed because you wanted to own the town. You farmed and farmed and farmed to the point where it was absolutely ridiculous how much it costs to own it! Smaller alliances had no chance. Casual guild members had no chance. Now you want more than what you knew you would get because you willingly participated in this system which a good number of us realized was pointless from the start? You guys who farmed yourselves onto a mountain with an increasing slope need to realize you did this to yourselves.

The fact that I've been able to to do the elite missions whenever I want is certainly appreciated, mind you, but if you're not having fun doing what you're doing, then for the love of god and all that is holy just STOP.

Don't get me wrong here. I don't think you were stupid to participate but I sure as hell thought that the people fighting to control the towns were doing what they enjoyed. Some people just love farming, yaknow?

I always thought of the town control system as a new green item. Everyone rushes like mad and pays through the nose to get it only to realize that it's actually nothing special. Then the price starts to drop and, eventually, becomes affordable to the little people.

I would expect [oOo] to start getting burned out at the rate theyve been farming. That's only natural. What it means is you should find something else in Guild Wars to do and simply acknowledge that you've had a good run, probably gotten rich, and need to bow out before you start resenting A.Net and Guild Wars any more than you might already be doing.

You [oOo] guys have done a great service for the playerbase for no reason other than wanting to have fun and be nice. Be satisfied with that, let it go, and have some freakin' fun for a change

Originally Posted by Karlos

People talking about limiting access to Elite Missions are missing the boat, I think.

1) Anyone who has done an elite mission knows what a DRAG it is to form a full party. Imagine trying to do that with ONLY alliance people.
2) There is no perceived benefit what so ever. It takes parties longer to form. It will take the alliance longer to figure out how to win (the fewer people who do it, the less likely the best builds to beat will come out quickly) and the skins will depreciate in time, no matter how leet they look.
3) It generates much harm. If you lock people out of elite, you give everyone an incentive to take you out of the top spot. It would be no longer about pride, but there would be actual $$ involved. Your alliance is selling all the Zodiacs while everyone else isn't.

Ferrying into the Elite is a necessary step to make party formation a sane process. Charging for ferries is just a lame way of making money. And forcing people to find backdoors and shortcuts around your charges.

I do however believe they can make holding the house symbolically more rewarding. There is a records NPC in lame old Amatz Basin, there SHOULD be record-keeping of Alliances holding towns. Maybe the highest total faction, the longest period an alliance held Hzh, the longest period an alliance kept holding towns. It's all about bragging rights anyway. ANet will never imbalance the economic system such that it heavily rewards the few. People need to get over that.

Originally Posted by Red Locust

It's quite simple, really. The whole point of farming faction is to have your guild name on the main city. If you don't think that's worth it to you, then simply don't do it. The guild that wants it the most will go to the greatest lengths to get it, and will therefore have its name on the city.

If you're driven to the point where it's no longer fun for you and you can't take it anymore, just accept the fact that some other guild wants it more than you and is willing to work for it more than you, and go on with your game. Nothing wrong with that system...that's how a lot of things work. If you want a zodiac hammer, go ahead and have it for a huge sum of gold that you'll have to grind for. If other people want it more than you and are willing to pay more than you, the price will stay up and you will lose out.

It's similar to how people were complaining about how the korean teams practiced GvG all day, every day, and deemed it unfair to US guilds that play more casually. There's nothing wrong with that, they are simply willing to go to greater lengths to win than you are. If you're not willing to put that kind of time into winning, and someone else is, it's natural to expect that person to best you. Either suck it up and try to out-do them, or admit that they're willing to go to more extremes than you and stand down. There's no point in complaining about how the system is broken and rewards time investment, whether that time is invested in farming faction or in practicing GvG and improving skill.